Feel The Fear And Do It Anyway

Then we shift from crime to courage. Our guest, Franklin Moyle, known artistically as Jay Franklin, joins us for his first-ever podcast and does it in his second language. He opens up about the quote that shaped his life: “Feel the fear and do it anyway” from Susan Jeffers. We talk about self-confidence, imposter syndrome, and the uncomfortable truth that many people who look fearless are simply better at hiding their fear. If you’re building a business, changing careers, or trying to speak up in public, this conversation is a grounded reminder that bravery is a practice, not a personality type. 

Franklin Moya

• Website: https://jfranklin.eu/
• Email: j.franklin.art@hotmail.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jfranklinme/

We also get into Franklin’s immigrant journey and reinvention story: leaving Venezuela as the economy collapsed, arriving in France on a student visa, working through demanding hospitality jobs while studying, and earning the right to stay by staying consistent, paying his dues, and keeping his long game in view. It’s a powerful lens on entrepreneurship, resilience, and building a future one choice at a time. 

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Show Opening And Premise

Voiceover 0:03

Tales from the Wild. Stories from the Heart. A journey into the mind and soul of fighter business professionals where they share their vision for the future. And hear from a different nonprofit organization every month as they create awareness of their goals and their needs. Dive into a world of untamed passion. As we join our host, Shireen Botha, for this month's episode of Friends from Wild Places.

Hosts Welcome And Bonus Content

Shireen Botha 0:35

Awesome, welcome back. Shireen here, your virtual Boutique bookkeeper and QuickBooks Pro Advisor. You started your business to pursue a passion, not to get buried in a mountain of paperwork. But let's be honest, when your books are a mess, you're flying blind. That is the number one reason you need professional help. Informed decision making without clear data? You're just guessing, right? So at Shireen's Bookkeeping Services, we aren't a one-size-fits-all firm. We are a boat seek service that builds customized processes specifically for your business. We tackle your worst financial pain points head on, turning chaos into accuracy. Up-to-date records you can actually trust. But the real value here is we give you back your time. Time for growth, time for family, and time for the things that you love. Because at Shireen's Bookkeeping Services, we do your books so you can do life. Ready to breathe easily? Why don't you visit Shireensbookkeeping.com today and get to know us a little bit more? Welcome back, listeners. You are listening to Friends from Wild Places with myself Shireen Botha and my amazing co-host Tanya Scotece. Welcome. Hey Tanya, how are you doing?

Tanya Scotece 2:01

Oh, doing okay over here, Shireen. Just uh, you know, doing life. What do we say? Doing life. Uh busy, crazy, but we just we do the best we can. It's like buckle up and uh off we go. But yeah, happy to be here this morning and uh super excited for our guest.

Shireen Botha 2:19

Lovely. Thank you. Tanya, would you mind mentioning to the listeners a little bit about our extra bonus content if they want to get to know us on a deeper level?

Tanya Scotece 2:29

Sure, sure. So at Friends from Wild Places, we put out a monthly podcast with our featured guests. But in addition, we also have behind the scenes, behind the firewall. For as little as five dollars a month, you can subscribe and get all the juicy content, raw, unedited, on topics that maybe you have more of a curiosity about. So feel free to subscribe. And as always, if you have topics that you'd like us to dive deeper on, please drop Shireen or myself a line, and we'd be happy to get your topic uh on the podcast or behind the scenes podcast.

Meet Franklin And Create Safety

Shireen Botha 3:05

Right. Thank you, Tanya. I appreciate that. Um please do, guys, there behind the firewall, that's rarely a place where we get more acquainted with some real life issues that we've faced and how we got over them as a woman in the world of business and entrepreneurship. Um, so I'm excited to to hear more about that. Uh, but let's move on to introducing our amazing guest here. So this is Franklin Moyle. Storytelling is his passion, expressed through drawing, writing, and public speaking. He's the author, and I'm not going to say the names. Um, I would have to actually roll down because you actually did say it in English. So if I am going to, yeah, I'd rather just wait and then you can tell me yourself the names and titles of your books. I don't want to torture with the names, but he's written multiple books. Uh, his aim is to aspire human values and help make the world a better place or one day. Originally from Venezuela, he moved to France in 2010 on a student visa to learn a language. Since then, he has specialized in hospitality and tourism, gaining valuable experience with companies such as Disneyland Paris, Married Vacation Club, Manitale, and currently EasyJet Switzerland, where he works as Cabin crew. His real name is Franklin Javier. Am I did I say a bit right? Good. Javier Muya Gonzalez. Wow, what a name. He is known artistically as Jay Franklin. So we'll stick with Jay Franklin, right? Or just Franklin.

Franklin Moya 4:58

Jay Franklin is mine.

Shireen Botha 5:00

Welcome. So good to have you on the on the show.

Franklin Moya 5:04

Well, thank you, Sharon and Tania as well for having me here. And I mean it's a pleasure. I'm gonna be honest with you. This is my first time doing a podcast. Do you imagine how nervous I am at this moment? And actually, since it's all in English, this is not my native language, and I've been practicing it like for many years, like since I was 16 years old. And I'm still having this accent, and I get, you know, just a little bit nervous every time I have to speak in English. My God. Well, here I am, and I believe that I have something to say. And then um, I really want to thank you for that, for giving me your that space in your in your platform.

Tanya Scotece 5:45

We're so excited. We're so excited to have you, Franklin. So yeah, so I would just rest assured uh you're in a safe space, and uh at Friends from Wild Places, it's also um a safe place to share your story and be able to collaborate and talk and get your you know mission and vision out to our listeners and really just tell your story. So we'll take it one step at a time, but we are very, very excited to have you with us.

Franklin Moya 6:14

Oh, thank you. I am more excited than you girls for being here.

Feel The Fear And Do It

Shireen Botha 6:20

Yeah, I agreed with Tanya. I think this is absolute this is why we created this space. It's so that you can feel safe and protected to share your heart and know that you're not going to be judged. This is not the place for that. This is the place to inspire, right? We're all here to inspire each other and the listeners who are early and young entrepreneurs that would like to take the step of faith and start something new and fresh and their own business. And so we have guests mostly that um have been through it, have owned multiple businesses, have failed, have been successful, and then we have the youngsters that come in here with brand new, inspiring stories that you know they where they want to be in 10 to 20 years' time. Um, so we're we have it all, and the point is to show the different, you know, sides from exactly from early to late and a lot of experience. Perfect. First up, yeah, we want to do a quote of the day, and our lovely Franklin here has really uh given us a good one. So the quotes of the day is fear the feel the fear and do it anyway. Feel the fear and do it anyway. So, Franklin, would you mind telling us why this quote and what does it mean to you?

Franklin Moya 7:45

Well, actually, I read the quote like years ago. I'm talking like 15 years before, like, and then it got me immediately. I was like, feel the fear, and went away. Just this is so powerful and so simple at the same time. And I believe this is something that I've been doing um unconsciously, and even though I'm afraid of doing something, I'm gonna do it, and you know, I'm just gonna go ahead and try. And and then I found out that it is a book by Susan Jeffers, and I was like, wow, I got the book, I read it, and it changed my life. So I believe this is practically like one of my life statements. Okay, I am afraid I'm I don't know how to do it, just it seemed scary, but let's give it a try. And um I use it every time, and I gotta be honest, um I'm still struggling with self-confidence since ever, and even though I've been learning a lot, I think I have to just push myself out of my comfort zone, and that's what I'm doing, and that quote it's been so powerful that it's just making me a better person every day. So I share that quote most of the time with the people I meet, because the people I meet, believe it or not, are in the same situation as me. Everybody is afraid of something, even the people who look like so confident, and well, that's kind of beautiful to me, those uh statues of people just being scared, being confident or not. The tricky thing is, since I have been improving myself since after since for years, I can hide better that self-confidence, low self-confidence that I have, and I can pretend better that to be somebody who is sure, you know, it's often self. But this is self-improvement, and I'm still working on that, and I'm having a lot of fun and doing everything anyway, even though I'm scared. So, yeah, this is kind of my personal quote for my everyday life.

Tanya Scotece 10:00

Oh my gosh. Beautiful, beautiful.

Shireen Botha 10:02

I think that's something that we deal with all the time, no matter what your age is, no matter what stage in of life that you're in, uh, we go through different phases, different experiences in life where that very quote, and it is, it's Susan Jeffers that actually wrote the book. Um, and I loved it because it helped me through the time when I started my own business. And the so we talk about the imposter syndrome, you know, you're feeling like, oh, I'm people are gonna see you straight through it. Um, you know, this is gonna be an absolute failure, and then you know, the fear that consumes you every almost, especially in the beginning, every night for me, but to absolutely feel that allow yourself to feel that fear and to keep on going, to make the next step, and to keep on making the following step after that, and finding um mentors to help you through it, it's a great, a great quotes to stand by, especially if you're doing new things and building new paths and roads. Uh, so that's great. Yeah.

Franklin Moya 11:17

That's why I admire your your platform, your show, because I can see that the people you are inviting like monthly, they've been passing through a lot. And even we always see the the light, we all always see the good things, and you're wow, you're so impressed. But when you hear those people speaking, what you've been passing through, you're like, oh my goodness, what will I do in her place, his place? You know, so you get to compare, and you're like, uh you are not alone, go ahead. Those people have those people are there shining, but they have passed through difficult moments. So you're not alone, go ahead. One day you will be there. And yeah, that's uh that's what you are providing to everybody, just uh that you have to keep going anyway.

True Crime And Medical Device Clues

Shireen Botha 12:08

Yeah, that's so true. Um, that's what we like to do. We'd like to encourage, and you know, the same the favorite word for Tanya and her adjective is inspire, and that's exactly what we do here from Friends from Wild Places. So let's begin a little bit of an icebreaker because we always have to start our podcasts with some true crime, right? Because Tanya and I, as you listeners know, we love it. We love it, we want to hear all about the latest true crimes that are happening in the courts, and I'm sure each and every one of you listeners know about this one because it's been all over the news, and I think it's 50 days now, and she's still missing. So you guessed it. It is the crime and case of Savannah Guthrie. So, not Savannah Guthrie, I probably I apologize. It's Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Savannah Guthrie, who is the today's talk show host. I hope I'm getting that right. Um, but yeah, she has disappeared from her home on the 31st of January. Uh, she is 84 years old, um, and her home is located in Arizona. The case is chilling because of the digital footprint left behind. While a masked intruder was caught on a doorbell camera at 1.47 a.m., it was Nancy's implanted pacemaker that gave police the most vital clue. The device missed its scheduled data transmission at 2.28 a.m., providing a narrow window for when she was likely taken from the property. Despite a $1 million reward and several suspicious ransom notes demanding Bitcoin, Nancy remains missing. So basically, listeners, where it stands now is investigators recently announced that they believe the abduction was targeted. Savannah Guthrie has stepped away from her NBC duties to focus on the search as forensics teams continue to analyze unidentified DNA found at the scene. So the question I have for us today is clearly the kidnapper knew how to hide from the doorbell camera, but they seemingly forgot about the tech inside Nancy's body. Do you think we've reached a point where smart medical devices have become the ultimate silent witness in a true crime? Tanya, what do you think?

Tanya Scotece 14:40

Yeah, great, great question, Shereen. Um, so yeah, I really think with, you know, the way, you know, I'm gonna use the word like medical technology and equipment and the way that um we're being monitored for health, I do believe that is another layer. Um similar, like you know, different conversation, but think about the like the tags. Um I have I'm an Apple girl, so like Apple tags, and now you can put them in your suitcase, or they have them for pets, and they have them, so there's different ways to use things that are meant to quote unquote track. So I think for her, um, and the you know, in this you know, very unsettling case, I mean disturbing to say the least, um, yeah, that the pacemaker um as an implantable device, you know, can shed some light as far as um what's you know what was recorded um in you know from her at the time.

Shireen Botha 15:37

Absolutely. Franklin, what do you think?

Franklin Moya 15:40

I think kind of uh follow the Tanya's um how do you say uh ideas? It is I think it's today it's really hard to escape from crime. It is really, really hard because you just you're monotheed everywhere. You have your telephone, you have um whatever you have, and just you can be registered. If you want to escape from crime for any kind of a thing, I think you have to be very, very, very smart. And um, well, I don't know, just I don't know what to say about this. Um I feel I feel so sorry for the victim and the family as well.

Shireen Botha 16:22

Uh well, you know, it's great, right? These devices are absolutely awesome, okay. But we're still sitting with a missing person. So, like, yes, it's great that they were able to identify a timeline of somewhat when the abduction actually happened, but we're still sitting without the person, and it's been 50 days. So, um, yeah, I I think it gives light, and I'm very grateful for that, and I absolutely agree to what Tanya was saying and what uh Franklin was saying, is definitely helping um us understand better the timelines of when crimes actually occurred. But does it actually at the end of the day help us find the person that's gone missing or murdered, or you know, whatever the case may be? Uh so far, no, we haven't, unless I don't know if you know of a case, Tanya, that's happened uh as of today where the actual medical device actually found the person. I haven't heard of that yet.

Tanya Scotece 17:29

No, I'm I'm not aware of that, but I think you know, if we look at, I always like to um educate in the form of tools, right? So for those that are like construction people, think of it like a toolkit. And those of you that are more the mermaid folks, think of it like a mermaid chest, right? So in our toolbox or our chest, we have for let's say investigation for crimes, many different things to use to investigate. For example, you know, cell phones, and then you know, you have cameras and you have you know public um cameras out there, ring cameras, very popular here in Florida. So I think it's one additional layer. Is it by itself foolproof? No. But is it could it help? Most definitely. So I think when we look at um situations, the more the better, and from different you know, modalities. And even you know, one question that I still um am surprised about. I mean, I've seen the YouTube videos um from her home and I've seen the area like the neighborhood. What I'm surprised at is most people right have some type of either camera or um you know, some type of security device, you know, with the security in their home. I'm surprised that, and maybe there are things that we don't know about, so that's how I'm gonna express it in that level. But I'm just surprised that there's not more, even with the gentleman that appeared, as you said, at the front door with the mask on, I'm surprised there's not more tracking even on him, even from other cameras in the area, right? Outside of her own device. So I was just surprised that there's not being more like, oh yeah, they saw him flee here. So I guess when you look at it, to me, any you know, anything that we can do to help solve a crime is always good. Does it guarantee anything? No, of course not.

Shireen Botha 19:23

Of course, yeah. So true, so true. Um all right, Franklin.

Tanya Scotece 19:29

Franklin wants to accept it.

Shireen Botha 19:30

Yeah, yeah, Franklin.

Franklin Moya 19:33

I'm just thinking about this, is uh what happened. Maybe I misunderstood a little bit, but uh I truly believe that it's really hard to not be followed and tracked. Um maybe it's just a matter of time, and hope I hope it's gonna be just a matter of time. Um, so let's wait and see. I see myself now looking at this case after this um intervention, but uh, I'm gonna find out a little bit more now about this.

Leaving Venezuela And Starting Over

Shireen Botha 19:59

Um it is it is very interesting. You should actually have a deeper dive. I mean, at first I was like, it's the brother and the sister, they have you know absolutely kidnapped and murdered their own mother. Like I was I was so involved in in this case, and and look, it's died down and it's gone a little cold, but I still absolutely hope that they find um the mum alive. I do I really believe she is alive? No, unfortunately, she is again. If you look into all the details, she was in a lot of medication, she had a heart pacemaker, there were certain medications she had to have at certain times, and if she doesn't take those medications, it could be life-threatening. It's now been 50 days, and I'm not sure, I don't believe that those medications were there to be taken. So um, I don't know if she's still alive, but let's hope for the best. All right, this brings us to the next the next part of our our podcast, and that's a little bit about you, Franklin. Tell us a little bit about who you are and a little bit about your background. Um, we would love to get to know you a bit better.

Franklin Moya 21:15

Well, thank you. Um sorry. So I just uh like I you mentioned before, I'm from Venezuela. I came to France when I was 25. And actually, what brought me here was actually having the dream of learning a new language and living in Europe, you know. And of course, the something that got me, that hit me, was what we were living in Venezuela at that moment. Economy was collapsing and everything was just falling apart. And I knew that if it wasn't the time, like I at that moment, if I couldn't just get out, then it would be really hard and impossible to get. Out of my country. You know, I just like kind of an instinct, a voice telling me, do it. And I being in France or actually many places in Europe for vacations before, I told myself, yeah, let's go and learn French. Well, that's what I did. I got an student visa and I quit my job. I quit my family and I came to France. And exactly what I was thinking happened. Two years later, the company where I was working, well, it disappeared. The government took over everything. The economy got even worse. And I think I picked the best decision. Beginning in France as a student was exciting in the beginning, but once I heard the news that the country was just getting even worse and worse, I knew it was time for me to stay for good here. Having this student visa was not enough. It was time for me to change it. So, lucky me, I've been working since I arrived. I've been doing my studies and working at the same time. I got a job, my first job was in Disneyland Paris as a waiter. And I've been doing that job, it was a summer job. But once the summer finished and I started going to college, well, I got the contrast for the weekends and holidays. So for a couple of years, even more than that, I've been going to study, you know, for university from Monday to Friday and working on weekends and holidays. Well, that was very violent. It was kind of uh it was a lot of sacrifices that actually at the end it's worth it because I'm here. But um I think for me that was revelatory to be in a place where you didn't have a time to enjoy yourself, your life, the the good things that life provides, only because you prefer to suffer here than suffer there, you know what I mean? So one thing after the other, I graduated, I kept working, I kept doing my things, paying my taxes. Um so over the years I asked for uh becoming a French. Well, actually, I was working in this marriage vacation club, they wanted me to stay, so they asked a permit for uh working, a work permit, and of course the France denied. It was not strong. Um the job position was not strong enough to be validated. Long story, I asked for their presidentship and I got it. And then just next year, the the following year, I asked to become French and it was accepted. And for me, the the lesson here is being a good citizen has a has a price because what helped me to become French finally was the fact that I was doing my job, going to college, paying my taxes, not asking for social help and all of it. And finally I was I was there. Now I believe that I can enjoy the little things from life. I can enjoy life, I can I can have vacations finally.

Tanya Scotece 25:35

Nice.

Franklin Moya 25:36

Funny fact also is that I always told myself, when I'm French, I'll probably wanna find a job somewhere else, like in Switzerland. And it's so funny that when I became French, there was a job announcement in Switzerland, in Geneva, as a carving crew. And that's where I apply, and that I'm here now.

Congratulations And Part Two Tease

Shireen Botha 25:59

That's amazing. Um, first of all, congratulations for getting that first part of your dream achieved.

Tanya Scotece 26:07

Tune in next week for part two from Friends from Wild Places.

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